Rodney Childers deciding to stay atop the No. 4 pit box for Stewart-Haas Racing came down to who was going to succeed Kevin Harvick in 2024.

“If it wasn’t the right person, I don’t know if I would have done it anymore,” Childers said Wednesday as Josh Berry was introduced to the team. “And I’ve said that a lot over the last 10 years; it would be hard to replace what I’ve had with Kevin . The relationship we’ve had is just crazy special.”

Childers and Harvick joined Stewart-Haas in 2014, and it was Harvick who made the call about whom he wanted as his crew chief. Childers then built the No. 4 team from scratch, guiding it to a championship in its first year.

To date, Childers and Harvick have won 37 points races in the NASCAR Cup Series. But after 23 years at the Cup Series level, Harvick is retiring at season’s end.

“We laugh about it, but the amount of conversations that we have and text messages and all that, everyone thinks we kid about it, but it’s way more than you can imagine,” said Childers. “So, for me, it needed to be someone who I felt like we could win races. Somebody that I can have fun with it and go to dinner and talk about late models and talk about racing, and have intelligent conversations about life and geometry on race cars. Somebody that understands that kind of stuff.